Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out.

Even Barack's supporters have begun to question Rev. Jeremiah Wright's recent decision to create a new round of media maelstrom.  Speaking to the National Press Club this morning, here is what the Reverend had to say:

The headline reads on RCP: "Wright Says Obama Only Criticized Him to Get Elected"

Over a month ago, I wrote my reactions to Sen. Barack Obama's now-famous "Race Speech".  In this diary, I said that I had "conflicted feelings" about the speech, recognizing much good in it, but also recognizing this:

While I appreciate so much Sen. Obama's articulation of the challenges and work before us, I can also see the speech for what it is:  A finely crafted political device, to be sure.

And I conclude my thoughts on this note:

It strikes me that, some weeks ago, Sen. Obama's campaign stood much to gain by fomenting racial tensions, which emerged as a wedge issue, from South Carolina to Mississippi.  Sen. Obama has had no apparent objection to this.  Indeed his campaign has actively encouraged it, doing precisely what he condemns in his speech: exploiting anger "to gin up votes along racial lines, or to make up for a politician's own shortcomings."

Now that these myopic tactics have caused him duress, now that the "racial lens" has been re-focused on him, he sees expediency in unity.

Putting it in his terms, the fierce urgency of now doesn't seem all that urgent to Sen. Obama.  Rather, we are left with the image of a shrewd, opportunistic politician, gifted, but entrenched in those same politics of old that supporters would shed like a coat on a hot summer day.  Even while delivering his great reconciliatory speech, he ultimately plays that same gambit: to doubt him is to halt progress.  To question him is to confess an adherence to a racist stalemate of the past.

Listening to Rev. Wright's answer today, it would seem that he agrees with my assessment.  He was given an opportunity to clarify remarks made during a recent interview with Bill Moyers.  And clarify, he did.  While there is a part of me that admires Wright's brand of honesty, this cannot be good news for the folks at Obama's campaign.  I do have one suggestion for David Axelrod: that "literally willing to do anything to win the nomination" personal attack you have promoted so heavily?  It just got neutered by your client's mentor.



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Re: Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out. (2.00 / 1)

Can you imagine how much stife this is causing Sen. Obama right now?  Wright has said many completely accurate things.  Wright has stood be Sen. Obama for years.  But because of our Racists Media Obama has to step around it if he has any hope of continuing his efforts to change this country for the better.  I feel terribly sorry for the man.


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by CardBoard on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:07:20 PM EST

Re: Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out. (2.00 / 1)

Racist Media made him do it.  That's the ticket.


by bobbank on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:10:10 PM EST
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Re: Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out. (2.00 / 1)

Don't tell me the media is not racists.

There is a reason not one body was shown on network TV after 9/11, yet black bodies were floating down the street on our TV's after Katrina. There is a reason Rev. Wright cannot say "AIDS was created by the government to kill black men" yet McCain's cohort of Pastors gets away with "AIDS is given by God to kill gay people." There is a reason Rev. Wrights saying "an person of Fox News the other day said 'Our Chickens are coming home to roost'" was cut to him yelling "Our Chickens are coming home to roost."

How anybody could deny the media is racists is beyond me.


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by CardBoard on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:23:02 PM EST
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Re: Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out. (none / 0)

But because of our Racists Media Obama.  Seriously does this nonsense ever end.  It is like this is a recording.  I mean is everyone in amercia racist now.  The media, republicans, The clinton's, etc.  Does it even stop.

david


by giusd on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:14:09 PM EST
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Re: Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out. (none / 0)

To quote Rev. Wright "Be not deceived; God is not mocked, for whatsoever you sew that you also shall reap."

I think our media is more sensationalist than racist, but Obama was happy to take advantage of the sensationalism of race charges in a Democratic party when it suited him. I don't know how this is affecting Senator Obama now, but I suspect that neither he nor the media were ever interested in a serious discussion of race in the middle of a presidential primary. The media was happy to air his speech and pretend the subject was closed, but here comes that outspoken Rev. Wright again, reminding them that he actually has something to say.

I note also that now that the work of the "Bradley Effect" charge is done Obama supporters are trying to shoot down Bob Novak's claim that it is a factor in the general. Too bad they couldn't resist quoting Novak on the Bradley effect in the primary when they thought it helped Obama.


by souvarine on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:27:27 PM EST
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Re: Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out. (none / 0)

Sorry but I'm done responding to comments that either campaign was racists.  The media coverage, however, has been terribly racists...especially on Wright.


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by CardBoard on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:30:21 PM EST
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Re: Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out. (none / 0)

Well Barack has admitted to it, if that means anything.  After denying it for weeks, Tim Russert confronted him with 4 pages of racist slander that his campaign had been pushing in South Carolina.  Barack apologized and said he wouldn't do it again.

I have watched the exact same surrogates begin pushing the exact same talking points, literally within hours of Hillary's win in PA.  If it didn't upset me so much, I could admire how perfectly choreographed it is.


by bobbank on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:42:54 PM EST
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Re: Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out. (none / 0)

It is not racist to call out racism.


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by CardBoard on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:43:48 PM EST
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Daddy Only Drinks Because You Cry (none / 0)

One of the things that binds the alcoholic family together is punishing anyone that tells the truth about anything, because that threatens drunken dad's ability to spin lies about practically everything.

And guess what, a lot of these products of alcoholic families become racists.

And then they go through life getting hysterical about anyone telling the truth about anything, including racism.

Any mention of anything factual or genuine and kaboom, they go completely nuclear.


by bernardpliers on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:06:34 PM EST
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Re: Daddy Only Drinks Because You Cry (none / 0)

that is terribly interesting.


Bring Back MyDD - Just say No to Rec'ing Candidate Diaries.
by CardBoard on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:07:22 PM EST
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The Arguement About Who's "Nicer" (none / 0)

Is the dynamic of the alcoholic (or at least neurotic dry drunk) family from top to bottom, and any time you see the "niceness" arguement in play look for the role of alcohol.

In nonalcoholic families, this never comes up, but in alcoholic families it starts fresh nearly every day.

Ringing any bells?


by bernardpliers on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:10:36 PM EST
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Re: Daddy Only Drinks Because You Cry (none / 0)

Wow.


by bobbank on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:56:26 PM EST
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The Obama pulled the roof down (none / 0)

onto their own heads, by making race an issue in the SC primary.   Now they're simply reaping the whirlwind.


by miker2008 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:43:56 PM EST
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Obama has no control (none / 0)


   over Wright, what he says or what he does. He's condemned the remarks...of course the Reverend was going to defend himself.

  Why blame Obama? I'm no fan of Reverend Wright, but I'm not blaming Obama for that sick man going on television to try and defend his indefensible position.

  I've yet to see the Obama campaign exploit racism...except to point out that Ferraro's comments were racist and Clinton did not condemn them. One should not forget that Obama DID condemn Wright's remarks...which is one reason Wright is on television now, criticizing Obama.

  I'm glad the Reverend is criticizing Obama. If I were Obama, I'd love to be criticized by a lunatic. It only highlights his own appeal.


by southernman on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:10:21 PM EST

Re: Obama has no control (none / 0)

Wright is not a lunatic, and it's sick that Faux News cherry-picked a bunch of 15 second sound bites and played them in an endless loop to make him look like a lunatic.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:13:40 PM EST
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Re: Obama has no control (none / 0)


  If he truly believes the shit he's said about the AIDS virus, then he's a lunatic. No two ways about it.
by southernman on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:34:50 PM EST
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Re: Obama has no control (none / 0)

I don't agree with Rev Wright about the aids virus being manufactured to kill AAs, but I do believe that the US just stood by while millions of AAs died from aids.  We could have done a lot more to help and we did not.  The aid epidemic became more widespread than it should have done.  If the US would have done more quicker than millions of AAs would have been saved.  If Rev Wright would have articulated these thoughts than most people would have agreed with him.


by Spanky on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:52:14 PM EST
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Re: Obama has no control (none / 0)

millions of gays died from aids while Ronnie Reagan (the man with the ideas) stood by.

aids isn't a black thing or a white thing.  It affects all of us.


by colebiancardi on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:46:53 PM EST
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Re: Obama has no control (none / 0)

After the Tuskegee Experiment, why do you think it's crazy for him to think that?


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:06:03 PM EST
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Re: Obama has no control (none / 0)


   B/c the AIDS virus was not manufactured. Nor does it only affect black people, nor is it confined to one general area or even one general practice.

  It is a true medical tragedy. Not limited to blacks, and certainly not created to eliminate blacks.


by southernman on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:40:04 PM EST
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Re: Obama has no control (none / 0)

Yes.


by bobbank on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:44:49 PM EST
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Re: Obama has no control (none / 0)

no one infected anyone with syphilis.  Granted, the gov't didn't treat them either, but syphilis wasn't created by any gov't to wipe out the black race.


by colebiancardi on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:48:18 PM EST
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southernman, you see to be a reasonable (none / 0)

...person.  Can I point out the following with regard to your comments about Obama not exploiting racism?

Specifically, Paul Lukasiak (NOT a member of any lunatic fringe group) reported in Firedoglake about 2 weeks ago (please note the next to last paragraph):

"Is it a timing thing? Because all the Democrats, including Obama, did whatever they could to "scorch earth" Hillary's chances starting in September. I don't know if people just forget about it, or don't think it matters, but Hillary Clinton was running a relentlessly positive, issue oriented campaign through last September -- in fact all the candidates were up until that point. But no one was getting any real traction -- Hillary's numbers went up all summer, and Obama's went down, Edwards couldn't get media and languished in third place, and there were another half -dozen "WHO?" candidates.

Running positive against Clinton wasn't working, so everyone, including Obama (except for Richardson) went negative on her -- attacking her relentlessly to drive up her negatives so they would have a shot.

So is it just the timing? Or have people forgotten about that.

And, when it comes to "scorched earth" campaign tactics, nothing beats the "swift-boating" of the Clinton on the race issue in South Carolina by the Obama campaign and its supporters. And it was "swift-boating", it was a big fat lie that Clinton was running a racist campaign, and the accusation made no sense; given the demographics of South Carolina, why would Clinton choose to start running racist then?

So again, I ask, have people just forgotten how we got where we are, or is it a question of timing? Is it okay to pull sh*t early in a primary season, but not later because of the potential impact it will have on the general election?"


by CoyoteCreek on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:48:11 PM EST
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Obama IS exploiting racism...even today. (none / 0)

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/cont ribute/dvdspeech?source=20080428_EOM1_ND 8M_B


by CoyoteCreek on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:28:58 PM EST
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I feel sorry for him, too. (2.00 / 1)

But that still doesn't make me want him to be my POTUS.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:11:07 PM EST

Re: I feel sorry for him, too. (none / 0)

I have no doubt that Rev Wright will never be President.


Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!
by Drewid on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:15:31 PM EST
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Oh, I thought the original comment... (none / 0)

was about feeling sorry for Obama.  Hence my response.

My bad.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:43:35 PM EST
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Re: I feel sorry for him, too. (none / 0)

Absolutely. We definitely won't be voting for Reverend Wright in November.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:16:27 PM EST
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Re: Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out. (none / 0)

I dont really know what to believe anymore: is it genuine or a political tactic?

who knows,


--++++Stay Gold, Ponyboy!++++--
by amde on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:13:54 PM EST

Re: Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out. (none / 0)

The title of your diary is a little confusing: are you saying that Wright is Obama's mentor and Obama is Wright's pupil?


"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."
by VAAlex on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:18:04 PM EST

Re: Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out. (none / 0)

That's correct.  That is how Barack described the relationship numerous times, including in his book.


by bobbank on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:21:43 PM EST
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Re: Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out. (none / 0)

Thanks for clarifying, that's news to me.


"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."
by VAAlex on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:24:29 PM EST
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I missed the part where he said (none / 0)

that Obama didn't mean what he said....


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:25:42 PM EST

Re: I missed the part where he said (none / 0)

You miss a lot of things, though. :)


by bobbank on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:27:52 PM EST
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Re: I missed the part where he said (none / 0)

Yeah the problem with your argument is that Wright already said Obama never expressed those views to Wright and EVERYONE said Obama needed to address the issue or it would hurt him.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:31:59 PM EST
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Re: I missed the part where he said (none / 0)

MS. LEINWAND: What is your motivation for characterizing Senator Obama's response to you as, quote, "what a politician had to say"? What do you mean by that?

REV. WRIGHT: What I mean is what several of my white friends and several of my white Jewish friends have written me and said to me. They said, "You're a Christian. You understand forgiveness. We both know that if Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected." Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls -- Huffington, whoever's doing the polls. Preachers say what they say because they are pastors. They have a different person to whom they're accountable.

So Obama is a poll driven politician who says what he has to say to get elected, while Rev. Wright is a pastor who says what will keep him right with God.


by souvarine on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:33:37 PM EST
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Re: I missed the part where he said (none / 0)

See above for answer to your comment.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:37:12 PM EST
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Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out. (none / 0)

I don't think this will help Obama, especially some of the things he said.  I think it also goes to show that the two are completely separate people.  He could've gone out there and played kiss ass, which would've been considered damage control from the Obama camp, but this is completely unrelated to the Obama camp.  From what I understand, he didn't even use the PR firm that Obama and Axelrod set up for him.


This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!
by venavena on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:57:31 PM EST

Clarification (none / 0)

I think that some of you, as supporters of Obama, and perhaps of Wright, have an honest difficulty seeing "what's the deal" here.  So, without intending condescension, I want to clarify that point.

For many people, there is a concern that, having declared Wright his mentor, and having viewed him as a father-figure for over two decades, that perhaps some of Wright's ideology rubbed off on Barack.  This is not all that unreasonable to assume.  Many folks have deep disagreements with large parts of Wright's ideology, even after the most outrageous of his statements are set aside.

And so, for those folks, among which I include myself, the sincerity of Barack's speech is crucial.  His position that he was really quite unfamiliar with these views of Wright's already strains credulity, especially since, in a more calm tone, Wright has repeatedly clarified those same views over and over again.  But, nevertheless, he asked critics to take a remarkable leap of faith and believe that, not only was he utterly unfamiliar with Wright's ideology, but that he doesn't subscribe to it.

Finding it hard to believe in the first instance, for me to be told by his own pastor that Barack only said what he needed to say in order to get elected is damaging.  It may not seem so to some of you, because you are so committed to Barack Obama at this point that very little (in terms of new information) could possibly change your mind.  And that's perfectly ok; I can relate.  But here I am referring to less ardent supporters and even opponents, and what reaction they might have on hearing these remarks.

Take this, as another example, from the Bill Moyers interview:

[B]ecause we're miseducated, you end up with the majority of the people not wanting to hear the truth. Because they would rather cling to what they are taught.

They learn that. And they cling to that. And when you start trying to show them you only got a piece of the story, and lemme show you the rest of the story, you run into vitriolic hatred because you're desecrating our myth.

Now, in fairness, during this particular passage Rev. Wright happens to be making a lot of sense.  But this notion of the uneducated "clinging" to beliefs or traditions, from which they must be liberated, found voice in San Franscisco  when Barack made his infamous Guns 'n God gaffe.

You could say I'm reading into it, and you'd be right.  But that's the point.  An isolated gaffe here or there is not likely to seriously alter the public's perception.  But a series of remarks, one reinforcing the next, do have that effect.


by bobbank on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:43:34 PM EST

Re: Mentor to Pupil: I'm calling you out. (none / 0)

The New York Times coverage, simply by quoting Wright in full context, is damning to Obama's campaign right now:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/ 04/28/rev-wright-defends-church-blasts-m edia/index.html?hp


by bobbank on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:31:07 PM EST


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